PLANNING AND ORDERS COMMITTEE |
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Minutes of the meeting held on 6 June, 2007 |
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The Chairman referred to bereavement sustained by the Vice-Chair, Councillor Denis Hadley, through the passing away of his mother and to Councillor Bryan Owen whose mother in law also passed away recently. Those present expressed their sincere sympathy to the members and their families and stood as a token of respect. |
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5.1 REMAINDER OF APPLICATIONS |
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6.5 DEPARTURE APPLICATION |
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6.6 REMAINDER OF APPLICATIONS |
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In response to Councillor Eurfryn Davies' question the Development Control Manager stated that the density of development would be 33 per hectare. |
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Councillor RL Owen questioned reaching a compromise and the Chair stated that any decision would be based on developing four units on site. Councillor RL Owen proposed approval, this was seconded by Councillor Arwel Edwards. |
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Voting was as follows: |
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To refuse the application, contrary to the officer's recommendation: Councillors John Chorlton, Glyn Jones, J Arthur Jones, Thomas Jones, Bryan Owen, John Roberts, Hefin Thomas |
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To accept the officer's report to approve the application: Councillors Arwel Edwards, |
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RL Owen, Arwel Roberts |
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The reasons given for refusal were: |
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In accordance with the Council’s Constitution the application would automatically be deferred to the next meeting to allow officers to prepare a report on the reasons for refusing the application. |
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6.9 REMAINDER OF APPLICATIONS |
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42C203 ALTERATIONS AND EXTENSIONS TO 11 GWEL Y DON, PENTRAETH |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the Chairman's request. At the meeting held on 9 May, 2007, it was decided to visit the site, this took place on 23 May, 2007. |
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Councillor Hefin Thomas had no objection to the principle of extending the dwelling but felt that this should either be done to the side or rear of the dwelling. It would have an unacceptable impact on the building line. He strongly recommended refusal of the application. |
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Councillor RL Owen agreed that it would have a detrimental impact on the pattern of development on the estate and proposed refusal. Councillor Thomas Jones agreed that extending the front of the dwelling was unacceptable. |
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Councillor John Roberts questioned the outcome of a similar application on this estate. |
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Councillor John Chorlton disagreed with the above and proposed approval, this was seconded by Councillor Bryan Owen. |
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Voting was as follows: |
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To refuse the application, contrary to the officer's recommendation: Councillors J Arthur Jones,Thomas Jones, RL Owen, John Roberts, Hefin Thomas |
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To accept the officer's report and to approve the application: Councillors Eurfryn Davies, Arwel Edwards, John Chorlton, Glyn Jones, Bryan Owen, Arwel Roberts |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to approve the application, subject to conditions detailed in the report. |
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6.10 DEPARTURE APPLICATIONS |
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45C360A OUTLINE APPLICATION FOR THE ERECTION OF A DWELLING ON LAND AT PEN WAL BACH, PEN LÔN, NEWBOROUGH |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. At the meeting held on 9 May, 2007, it was decided to visit the site, this took place on 23 May, 2007. |
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Councillor Peter Rogers stated that there was a substantial number of passing places along the road serving the site with a further three additional passing places being agreed upon recently; the road also served the nature reserve car park. Pen Lôn was recognised as a 'hamlet and cluster' in the stopped UDP. Councillor Rogers disagreed with the second paragraph at point 7 (main planning issues) of the officer's report where it stated that 'the proposal in this instance cannot be classed as an infill or acceptable site as it is not immediately adjacent to the developed part of the hamlet being some 94 metres from the nearest property to the north west and some 234 metres to the nearest property to the south east" - Councillor Rogers stated that the site was 40m from one property and between 40 - 50m from another. |
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During the site visit Councillor RL Owen found there to be in the region of 17 dwellings along the lane, and felt the area should be considered a "developed" area, he proposed approval. With a dwelling being refurbished at the end of the road and between 3 and 4 other planning applications granted along the lane, Councillor Glyn Jones seconded approval. |
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Councillor Arthur Jones found this completely contrary to policies - the site was not within a cluster, he proposed accepting the report to refuse the application, this was seconded by Councillor Hefin Thomas. |
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Voting was as follows: |
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To accept the officer's report to refuse the application: Councillors John Chorlton, Arwel Edwards, J Arthur Jones, Arwel Roberts, John Roberts, Hefin Thomas, |
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To approve the application, contrary to the officer's recommendation: Councillors Eurfryn Davies, Glyn Jones, Thomas Jones, Bryan Owen, RL Owen |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to refuse the application for the reasons given. |
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7 ECONOMIC APPLICATIONS |
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7.1 19C251L/ECON OUTLINE APPLICATION FOR THE ERECTION OF A RETAIL FOOD STORE ON LAND ADJACENT TO KEEGANS & TRAVELODGE SITE, KINGSLAND, HOLYHEAD |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee as part of the site was owned by the Council. |
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For the record, the Development Control Manager stated that point 5 (response to consultation and publicity) of the report should read that 2 letters of objection were to hand and not 3. Although the application had been submitted in outline form it was accompanied by a site location plan. There was some element of concern regarding parking provision, waste storage facilities and service/delivery vehicles which would be a matter for consideration when detailed plans would be submitted. The officer requested delegated authority to approve the application subject to satisfactory outcome of issues of concern. |
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Councillor John Chorlton stated that whilst it had been long awaited for the site to be developed, there was concern that small local shops would not be able to compete with this convenience store, he proposed refusal, Councillor Glyn Jones agreed with this and added that there were road safety issues, he seconded refusal. |
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The Highways Principal Engineer stated that details of parking provision remained outstanding. In view of this Councillor Hefin Thomas proposed that consideration be deferred, this was seconded by Councillor Eurfryn Davies. |
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It was RESOLVED to defer determination of the application for the reason given. |
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7.2 30C104N/ECON OUTLINE APPLICATION FOR THE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING BUILDING AND ERECTION OF A THREE STOREY NURSING HOME TOGETHER WITH THE CREATION OF ASSOCIATED CAR PARKING SPACES AT BRYN MEIRION LODGE, BENLLECH |
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Mrs Sasha Davies of the Economic Department declared an interest in this application. This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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The Development Control Manager stated that the community council reaffirmed its objection to this application on the grounds of height and lack of parking provision. |
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Councillor John Roberts proposed accepting the officer's report and recommendation of refusal. |
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It was RESOLVED to refuse the application for the reasons given in the report. |
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8 AFFORDABLE HOUSING APPLICATIONS |
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There were no applications for affordable housing to be considered by this meeting. |
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9 DEPARTURE APPLICATIONS |
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9.1 13C145 OUTLINE APPLICATION FOR THE ERECTION OF AN AGRICULTURAL DWELLING TOGETHER WITH THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW SEPTIC TANK ON PART O.S. ENCLOSURE 8831 NEAR TRE ANGHARAD, BODEDERN |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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It was noted that this application had now been withdrawn. |
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9.2 28C278G OUTLINE APPLICATION FOR THE ERECTION OF A DWELLING TOGETHER WITH THE INSTALLATION OF A SEPTIC TANK ON LAND AT TY CARADEN, CAE'R NANT, TY CROES |
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Councillor Hefin Thomas declared an interest in this application and left the meeting during consideration and voting thereon. This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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The Development Control Manager stated that Certificate B confirmed the applicant to be the owner of the site. The community council indicated their objection on highway grounds. This application was contrary to policies; he reminded members that a similar application was refused in March of this year, the recommendation was one of refusal. Another unrelated application 5m from the development boundary was refused by the Committee previously - this particular site stood over 200m away from the boundary. |
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Councillor Glyn Jones stated that the applicant had received permission for a caravan site, that he is the owner of the outbuilding with permission for conversion and he owned a house in Valley which was for sale. A house was needed on the site to allow the family to live in their community. |
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Councillor John Roberts proposed accepting the officer's report to refuse the application, this was seconded by Councillor Arthur Jones. |
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Voting was as follows: |
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To accept the officer's report to refuse the application: Councillors John Chorlton, Eurfryn Davies, Arwel Edwards, J Arthur Jones, Bryan Owen, RL Owen, Arwel Roberts, John Roberts, Hefin Thomas |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to refuse the application for the reasons given. |
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10 REMAINDER OF APPLICATIONS |
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10.1 17C245A CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW VEHICULAR ACCESS AND CLOSE OFF CURRENT ACCESS AT GWYNDY, OLD LLANDEGFAN |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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Councillor Eurfryn Davies proposed accepting the officer's report and recommendation of approval, this was seconded by Councillor Glyn Jones. |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to approve the application, subject to conditions detailed in the report. |
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10.2 17C395 CONVERSION OF OUTBUILDING TO FORM PART OF EXISTING DWELLING TOGETHER WITH ALTERATIONS AND EXTENSIONS THERETO AND THE INSTALLATION OF A PRIVATE TREATMENT PLANT AT TY SLATTERS, LLANDEGFAN |
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Councillor Eurfryn Davies declared an interest in this application and left the meeting during consideration and voting thereon. This application was brought for determination by the Committee as the local member, who is also a member of this Committee and has declared an interest. |
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The Development Control Manager stated that CCW had now submitted their observations and raised no objection, the recommendation was one of approval, this was proposed by Councillor RL Owen. |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to approve the application, subject to conditions detailed in the report. |
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10.3 17C395A/LB LISTED BUILDING CONSENT FOR THE CONVERSION OF OUTBUILDING TO FORM PART OF EXISTING DWELLING TOGETHER WITH ALTERATIONS AND EXTENSIONS THERETO AND THE INSTALLATION OF A PRIVATE TREATMENT PLANT AT TY SLATTERS, LLANDEGFAN |
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Councillor Eurfryn Davies declared an interest in this application and left the meeting during consideration and voting thereon. This application was submitted in conjunction with item 10.2 above. |
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It was RESOLVED to inform CADW that the local planning authority is minded to grant Listed Building Consent subject to conditions detailed in the report. |
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10.4 19C171B FULL APPLICATION FOR THE ERECTION OF 14 TWO STOREY DWELLINGS WITH ASSOCIATED DRAINAGE WORKS AND NEW ACCESS AT PENRHOS STANLEY HOSPITAL, HOLYHEAD |
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Mr JRW Owen of the Highways Department declared an interest in this application and left the meeting during consideration and voting thereon; Mrs Mairwen Hughes of the Committee Section also declared an interest. This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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The Chair stated that he had discussed this application with officers and at a public meeting, there was no planning reason to refuse the application. However it was felt that there would be a loss of habitat and local amenity. He questioned whether the drains were in public ownership. |
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Councillor Arwel Roberts noted that the affordable element had been transferred to another site and requested that the application be deferred to enable officers to discuss planning gain with the developers e.g. a contribution towards play equipment in lieu of loss of potential status as amenity land under designation TO14 of the UDP. Councillor Glyn Jones agreed and proposed deferral. |
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It was RESOLVED to defer determination of the application to allow officers to discuss planning gain. |
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10.5 19C294G RETENTION OF THE INSTALLATION OF DECORATIVE WINDOW AND VENT GRILLES TO THE REAR OF LO-COST & WOOLWORTHS, VICTORIA ROAD, HOLYHEAD |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee as it was submitted by the Council. |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to approve the application, subject to conditions detailed in the report. |
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10.6 19C964 FULL PLANS FOR THE ERECTION OF FOUR RESIDENTIAL FLATS TOGETHER WITH ALTERATIONS TO THE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR ACCESS ON LAND ADJACENT TO VULCAN STREET, HOLYHEAD |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee as the Council own the land. |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to approve the application, subject to conditions detailed in the report. |
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10.7 24C254 OUTLINE APPLICATION FOR THE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING BUILDING, ERECTION OF SEVEN DWELLINGS CONSISTING OF THREE FOUR BEDROOMED DWELLINGS, TWO THREE BEDROOMED DWELLINGS AND TWO AFFORDABLE DWELLINGS TOGETHER WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW VEHICULAR ACCESS AT DUBLIN & KINGSTON, PENYSARN |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to authorise the Head of Planning Services to approve the application, subject to conditions detailed in the report, including a Section 106 Agreement (provision of affordable homes). |
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10.8 27C23A ERECTION OF FIVE DWELLINGS TOGETHER WITH ALTERATIONS TO THE EXISTING VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ON LAND ADJACENT TO THE PRIMARY SCHOOL, LLANFACHRAETH |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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The Development Control Manager referred to the local member's letter tabled at the meeting. The recommendation was one of approval subject to a Section 106 Agreement on the provision of affordable homes instead of condition (16). |
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Councillor Arthur Jones proposed accepting the above, this was seconded by Councillor Hefin Thomas. |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to approve the application, subject to conditions as detailed in the report with the exception of condition (16) and that this be substituted with a Section 106 Agreement on affordable homes, also subject to suitable drainage scheme being submitted. |
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10.9 30C104M OUTLINE APPLICATION FOR THE ERECTION OF NINE DWELLINGS TOGETHER WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AT BRYN MEIRION LODGE, BENLLECH |
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Mrs Sasha Davies of the Economic Department declared an interest in this application. This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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Councillor Tecwyn Roberts requested a site visit to allow members to assess the situation. themselves. |
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It was RESOLVED to visit the site at the local member's request. |
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10.10 30C626A FULL APPLICATION FOR THE ERECTION OF A DWELLING TOGETHER WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ON LAND ADJACENT TO PLOT 21, LÔN FARCHOG, BENLLECH |
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This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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Councillor D Lewis-Roberts requested a site visit to assess the situation. |
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It was RESOLVED to visit the site at the local member's request. |
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10.11 31C350 ALTERATIONS AND EXTENSIONS TO 8 FFORDD GWENLLIAN, LLANFAIRPWLL |
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Mr Richard Eames of the Highways Department declared an interest in this application and left the meeting during consideration and voting thereon. This application was brought for determination by the Committee at the request of the local member. |
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Councillor John Roberts requested a site visit to assess the site and traffic situation. |
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It was RESOLVED to visit the site at the local member's request. |
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10.12 34C541B RETENTION OF SECURITY SHUTTERS AT 8 HIGH STREET, LLANGEFNI |
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Councillor Aled Morris Jones declared an interest in this application. This application was brought for determination by the Committee as it was submitted by an elected member. |
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Councillor Eurfryn Davies proposed approval, this was seconded by Councillor Bryan Owen. |
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It was RESOLVED to accept the officer's report and to approve the application, subject to conditions detailed in the report. |
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11 DELEGATED APPLICATIONS |
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Submitted and accepted, the report of the Corporate Director (Environment and Technical Services) on matters determined since the last meeting of this Committee. |
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12 MATTERS REFERRED BACK |
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12.1 31C78A CREIGAR, LLANFAIRPWLL |
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Mr Richard Eames of the Highways Department declared an interest in this application and left the meeting during consideration and voting thereon. |
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It was reported that this Committee at its meeting held on 7 June, 2002 resolved to approve the erection of three dwellings together with alterations to the existing vehicular access subject to the completion of a Section 106 Agreement to ensure that the estate road and access together with the sewers and drainage pipes serving the development were constructed to an adoptable standard. |
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The Agreement itself was recently completed and, in view of the fact that there had been no significant changes in policy since the date of the original resolution to approve, it continued to be the Authority's intention to issue planning permission for the site in line with the original resolution. |
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In light of current changes to TAN 15 (Wales) (development and flood risk), the Authority reconsulted with the Environment Agency. In its response, the Agency strongly recommended that the applicant incorporate climate change to the site as required under TAN 15 and that the local authority impose suitable conditions relating to finished floor levels and implementation of compensatory flood storage works. |
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It was AGREED that the above conditions would be included on any permission granted for the site. |
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12.2 13C141A BRON Y GRAIG, BODEDERN |
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It was reported that this Committee at its meeting held on 26th July 2006 resolved to approve an application submitted by Cymdeithas Tai Eryri for the erection of 10 dwellings on land at Bron y Graig, Bodedern as a departure from the Local Plan. The site was to be developed as an exception site for affordable housing and the Welsh Assembly Government confirmed that it had no objection to the approval. The matter was to progress under conditions only but further to negotiations was now considered that a Section 106 agreement in respect of the 100% affordable housing provision was required. |
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RESOLVED to reaffirm approval of the proposal but with a Section 106 Agreement rather than conditions. |
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12.3 30C385B BRYN TIRION HOTEL RED WHARF BAY |
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Councillors J Arthur Jones and Hefin Thomas declared an interest in this application and left the meeting during consideration and voting thereon. |
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The Head of Development Control reported on correspondence received from the Deputy Clerk to the Llanfair Mathafarn Eithaf Community Council (a copy of which was again tabled at the meeting). The community council stated that they would possibly challenge this Committee's decision to approve the application as the Committee Members had not received a copy of their correspondence dated 21 March, 2007 prior to making a determination on the application and had not had an opportunity to assess its contents. The officer staterd that the purpose of the report to Committee was to highlight the primary issues which members would need to consider as part of the decision making process. Members are updated by officers at Committee on issues of relevance which are not covered within reports. |
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The officer stated that over the months there had been discussions with the applicant and consultants in order to overcome the issues which were of concern to the members, the community council as well as the local action group. |
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The officer stated that the lengthy letter received from the Deputy Clerk dealt principally with matters in relation to site access and car parking arrrangements as well as jet skis, access for emergency vehicles etc. The written reports and officer's presentations had all dealt with the substance of the Community Council's objections - including matters contained in their letter of 21 March - and this was evidenced in the minutes of the various meetings where this application had been considered. |
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The officer referred to the history of this site and two site visits undertaken by members - it would not be practical to report in detail on each representation. He felt that all issues raised had been given due and fair consideration. |
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Councillor Chorlton stated he'd received a copy letter from the Community Council by e-mail. He accepted what the officer said. |
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Councillor John Roberts stated that he was aware that the issue of parking had received considerable attention. |
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The Chairman indicated that the Committee had given the application over the past few months more than a fair hearing. |
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Members AGREED that the correct procedures were undertaken and the application given due and just consideration. |
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12.4 30C621 LÔN PANT Y CUDYN, BENLLECH |
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It was reported that this Committee at its meeting held on 4 April 2007 resolved to refuse planning permission for residential development on the above land. The applicants indicated that they would proceed to appeal against this decision. A public inquiry is scheduled for 11 September, 2007 and a statement of case to be submitted by the end of June. |
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It was AGREED that Councillors Arthur Jones and RL Owen, as proposer and seconder, represent the Authority at the appeal. |
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Submit and noted, for information, copy of summary decisions taken by Inspectors appointed by the National Assembly for Wales as follows: |
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13.1 PENTRAETH NURSERIES, PENTRAETH |
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An appeal against this Authority’s decision to refuse planning permission for temporary change of use to allow for the parking of two school buses until the end of April, 2008 under application ref: 42C62M - the appeal was allowed, subject to conditions set out in the Formal Decision. |
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13.2 OUTBUILDING ADJACENT TO BRYNTIRION, BRYNTEG |
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An appeal against this Authority’s decision to refuse planning permission for the conversion and alteration of an existing outbuilding into holiday accommodation under application ref: 30C610 - the appeal was allowed, subject to conditions set out in the Formal Decision. |
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13.3 LAND ADJ TO FRON DERWYDD LLANFECHELL |
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An appeal against this Authority’s decision to refuse planning permission to erect one affordable dwelling under application ref: 38C228A - the appeal was dismissed. |
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The meeting started at 1.00 p.m. and was drawn to a close at 3.20 p.m. |
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J ARWEL ROBERTS |
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